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		<title>By: Eaglewings</title>
		<link>http://journeyacrossthesky.com/archives/115/comment-page-1#comment-949</link>
		<dc:creator>Eaglewings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 15:01:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>J.P. In all due respect I am not the one spamming people&#039;s blogs to promote Huller&#039;s book. The only book I endorse is the bible and not some fanciful fiction like Huller&#039;s tome. If however you were referring to one of the commenters to this post then I agree they are spamming other blogs in attempts to promote this worthless piece of fiction. I did reply to said spammers idiotic comments see below.

Thanks for posting your comment but be a bit more specific when addressing your comments and try not to flame others in your retorts. Thanks Eaglewings</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>J.P. In all due respect I am not the one spamming people&#8217;s blogs to promote Huller&#8217;s book. The only book I endorse is the bible and not some fanciful fiction like Huller&#8217;s tome. If however you were referring to one of the commenters to this post then I agree they are spamming other blogs in attempts to promote this worthless piece of fiction. I did reply to said spammers idiotic comments see below.</p>
<p>Thanks for posting your comment but be a bit more specific when addressing your comments and try not to flame others in your retorts. Thanks Eaglewings</p>
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		<title>By: J. P. Holding</title>
		<link>http://journeyacrossthesky.com/archives/115/comment-page-1#comment-948</link>
		<dc:creator>J. P. Holding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 14:46:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, I notice that you are spamming people&#039;s blogs promoting Stephan Huller&#039;s idiotic book. I just read and picked apart his book and found it to be full of half-truths, obfuscations, poor reasoning, and insufficiently documented claims.  A bunch of us are discussing Huller&#039;s nonsense here:

http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/showthread.php?t=130969

The point of the thread is to expose Huller as the fraud that he is.  Huller is a circus performer by trade, and we can believe that, given the sort of gymnastics he uses in the book.

I was really disgusted by his book. It wasn&#039;t anything like what serious scholars have to offer, which I guess is why he can only get fringe nutcases like Robert Price and Robert Eisenman to endorse it. It really made me think Huller needs some psychotherapy and exposure to serious historical scholarship and critical thinking.

It is a goofy book and it belongs in the trash can. 

Just thought I would pass this along</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, I notice that you are spamming people&#8217;s blogs promoting Stephan Huller&#8217;s idiotic book. I just read and picked apart his book and found it to be full of half-truths, obfuscations, poor reasoning, and insufficiently documented claims.  A bunch of us are discussing Huller&#8217;s nonsense here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/showthread.php?t=130969" rel="nofollow">http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/showthread.php?t=130969</a></p>
<p>The point of the thread is to expose Huller as the fraud that he is.  Huller is a circus performer by trade, and we can believe that, given the sort of gymnastics he uses in the book.</p>
<p>I was really disgusted by his book. It wasn&#8217;t anything like what serious scholars have to offer, which I guess is why he can only get fringe nutcases like Robert Price and Robert Eisenman to endorse it. It really made me think Huller needs some psychotherapy and exposure to serious historical scholarship and critical thinking.</p>
<p>It is a goofy book and it belongs in the trash can. </p>
<p>Just thought I would pass this along</p>
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		<title>By: Eaglewings</title>
		<link>http://journeyacrossthesky.com/archives/115/comment-page-1#comment-937</link>
		<dc:creator>Eaglewings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 17:34:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is why the bible admonishes us to choose our friends wisely because corrupt associations can corrupt even the best of people. Surrounding ourselves with less than honorable associates is a sign of moral failure. We need to be sure we surround ourselves by people who are morally superior if we wish to be held to a higher standard. We usually gravitate to those who LIKE US and do not challenge us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is why the bible admonishes us to choose our friends wisely because corrupt associations can corrupt even the best of people. Surrounding ourselves with less than honorable associates is a sign of moral failure. We need to be sure we surround ourselves by people who are morally superior if we wish to be held to a higher standard. We usually gravitate to those who LIKE US and do not challenge us.</p>
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		<title>By: Eaglewings</title>
		<link>http://journeyacrossthesky.com/archives/115/comment-page-1#comment-936</link>
		<dc:creator>Eaglewings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 17:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the addition of the Proverbs verse. And thanks for the kind comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the addition of the Proverbs verse. And thanks for the kind comments.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeanine</title>
		<link>http://journeyacrossthesky.com/archives/115/comment-page-1#comment-935</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeanine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 17:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Most people surround themselves with well wishers and yes men to their own detriment.&quot;  That&#039;s an important statement to heed.  It reminds me of Proverbs 27:6 which says, &quot;Faithful are the wounds of a friend,But deceitful are the kisses of an enemy&quot;.  The correlation with Ahab who refused to listen to the prophets who told him something other than what he wanted to hear was a good example.
.-= Jeanine´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://walk-in-light.com/2009/07/31/10-verses-that-talk-about-salvation/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;10 Verses That Talk About Salvation&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Most people surround themselves with well wishers and yes men to their own detriment.&#8221;  That&#8217;s an important statement to heed.  It reminds me of <a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?go=Go&amp;q=Proverbs+27%3A6" class="bibleref" title="ESV Proverbs 27:6">Proverbs 27:6</a><a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?go=Go&amp;q=Proverbs+27%3A6" class="scripturizer_newwindow" title="Open this passage in a new browser window" target="_new"><img src="http://journeyacrossthesky.com/wp-content/plugins/the-holy-scripturizer/new-window.gif" alt="Open Link in New Window" /></a> which says, &#8220;Faithful are the wounds of a friend,But deceitful are the kisses of an enemy&#8221;.  The correlation with Ahab who refused to listen to the prophets who told him something other than what he wanted to hear was a good example.<br />
<span class="cluv"> Jeanine´s last blog ..<a href="http://walk-in-light.com/2009/07/31/10-verses-that-talk-about-salvation/" rel="nofollow">10 Verses That Talk About Salvation</a> <span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip" alt="My ComLuv Profile" border="0" width="16" height="14" src="http://journeyacrossthesky.com/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Eaglewings</title>
		<link>http://journeyacrossthesky.com/archives/115/comment-page-1#comment-915</link>
		<dc:creator>Eaglewings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 19:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The length people go through in attempts to redefine the bible. Had Jesus been going to an Earthly throne it would seem a wee bit silly to actually allow himself to be crucified don&#039;t you think? If you actually believe that Jesus was setting up an EARTHLY throne, like the disciples actually thought, Jesus dispelled that theory when he said MY KINGDOM is not of his world. They wanted Jesus to overthrow the ROMAN GOVERNMENT not embrace it. AS far as Mark being the FIRST POPE is also silly considering the CATHOLIC PAPAL CHURCH as it is now constituted did not originate until long after Marks martyrdom. Constantine established the Cross as a symbol of Rome replacing the eagle in 312 AD. The facts are that Roman empire was attempting to EXTINGUISH CHRISTIANITY by killing the Christians not making them heads of state or Popes by any stretch. Besides there is one foundation upon which the Church is built and that is the foundation of Jesus Christ. We are God&#039;s workmanship the work of His hands. We are not building a BUILDING but we ARE THE BUILDING. Christians ARE THE CHURCH.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The length people go through in attempts to redefine the bible. Had Jesus been going to an Earthly throne it would seem a wee bit silly to actually allow himself to be crucified don&#8217;t you think? If you actually believe that Jesus was setting up an EARTHLY throne, like the disciples actually thought, Jesus dispelled that theory when he said MY KINGDOM is not of his world. They wanted Jesus to overthrow the ROMAN GOVERNMENT not embrace it. AS far as Mark being the FIRST POPE is also silly considering the CATHOLIC PAPAL CHURCH as it is now constituted did not originate until long after Marks martyrdom. Constantine established the Cross as a symbol of Rome replacing the eagle in 312 AD. The facts are that Roman empire was attempting to EXTINGUISH CHRISTIANITY by killing the Christians not making them heads of state or Popes by any stretch. Besides there is one foundation upon which the Church is built and that is the foundation of Jesus Christ. We are God&#8217;s workmanship the work of His hands. We are not building a BUILDING but we ARE THE BUILDING. Christians ARE THE CHURCH.</p>
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		<title>By: jacob</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 21:30:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, I notice that you are discussing the throne of God.  We have been led to believe by our ancestors that when Jesus was resurrected he went up to a throne in heaven.  However I just read a fascinating book by the New Testament scholar Stephan Huller that in earliest Christianity that the original gospel writer (St. Mark) might have had a physical throne ON THIS EARTH in mind - one which originally sat in Alexandria and which he rediscovered in Venice - see the photos of the object in the Basilica di San Marco which Italian sailors stole from the Church of St. Mark in Alexandria along with the body of St. Mark in 828 AD -

The point of Huller&#039;s book is that St. Mark was the first Pope and that Jesus ruled &#039;on his right hand&#039; as he sat on this throne (it is a universally acknowledged - albeit ignored - fact that the title &#039;Papa&#039; or Pope was originally associated with St. Mark rather than St. Peter and with Alexandria rather than Rome; the bishop of Rome only acquired the title after the fifth century).

I was really fascinated by this book.  It wasn&#039;t anything like what I had been taught in Sunday school.  It really made me think and learn about the language that Jesus and the original gospel writer (St. Mark) spoke.  

For instance in Hebrew or Aramaic (the language of Jesus) there would be no way to distinguish the concepts of &#039;divine throne&#039; or &#039;heavenly throne&#039; - i.e. it would be easy for white Europeans to get misled or confused (like the Gospels of Matthew and Luke speaking about &#039;the kingdom of heaven&#039; and &#039;God&#039; even though the Aramaic would be one and the same).

Just thought I would pass this along

Peace

Jacob</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, I notice that you are discussing the throne of God.  We have been led to believe by our ancestors that when Jesus was resurrected he went up to a throne in heaven.  However I just read a fascinating book by the New Testament scholar Stephan Huller that in earliest Christianity that the original gospel writer (St. Mark) might have had a physical throne ON THIS EARTH in mind &#8211; one which originally sat in Alexandria and which he rediscovered in Venice &#8211; see the photos of the object in the Basilica di San Marco which Italian sailors stole from the Church of St. Mark in Alexandria along with the body of St. Mark in 828 AD -</p>
<p>The point of Huller&#8217;s book is that St. Mark was the first Pope and that Jesus ruled &#8216;on his right hand&#8217; as he sat on this throne (it is a universally acknowledged &#8211; albeit ignored &#8211; fact that the title &#8216;Papa&#8217; or Pope was originally associated with St. Mark rather than St. Peter and with Alexandria rather than Rome; the bishop of Rome only acquired the title after the fifth century).</p>
<p>I was really fascinated by this book.  It wasn&#8217;t anything like what I had been taught in Sunday school.  It really made me think and learn about the language that Jesus and the original gospel writer (St. Mark) spoke.  </p>
<p>For instance in Hebrew or Aramaic (the language of Jesus) there would be no way to distinguish the concepts of &#8216;divine throne&#8217; or &#8216;heavenly throne&#8217; &#8211; i.e. it would be easy for white Europeans to get misled or confused (like the Gospels of Matthew and Luke speaking about &#8216;the kingdom of heaven&#8217; and &#8216;God&#8217; even though the Aramaic would be one and the same).</p>
<p>Just thought I would pass this along</p>
<p>Peace</p>
<p>Jacob</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Brown</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 22:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good lesson, Allen.  It brought to mind another saying that may help when we do foolish things: &quot;Doing a foolish thing doesn&#039;t necessarily make us a fool&quot;. It is possible that, in the beginning, Michael Jackson et al started out with trusted sources but, with the passage of time and the toll taken being in the public eye (not to mention the money and ensuing debt), in the name of vanity or need to get out of debt, etc., we cross over from being fooled to being a fool. Instead of taking the stand &quot;Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me&quot; we fulfill Proverbs 13:20.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good lesson, Allen.  It brought to mind another saying that may help when we do foolish things: &#8220;Doing a foolish thing doesn&#8217;t necessarily make us a fool&#8221;. It is possible that, in the beginning, Michael Jackson et al started out with trusted sources but, with the passage of time and the toll taken being in the public eye (not to mention the money and ensuing debt), in the name of vanity or need to get out of debt, etc., we cross over from being fooled to being a fool. Instead of taking the stand &#8220;Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me&#8221; we fulfill <a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?go=Go&amp;q=Proverbs+13%3A20" class="bibleref" title="ESV Proverbs 13:20">Proverbs 13:20</a><a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?go=Go&amp;q=Proverbs+13%3A20" class="scripturizer_newwindow" title="Open this passage in a new browser window" target="_new"><img src="http://journeyacrossthesky.com/wp-content/plugins/the-holy-scripturizer/new-window.gif" alt="Open Link in New Window" /></a>.</p>
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